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		<title>By: I was thinking&#8230; - Thinking, learning, caring</title>
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		<dc:creator>I was thinking&#8230; - Thinking, learning, caring</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Kim Cofino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim Cofino</dc:creator>
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		<description>Thank you so much for your thoughtful, timely and relevant post David. I have been thinking about this quite a bit over the last few years, as I have noticed many of the same things that you point out - most recently the 7 male (and one virtual female) keynotes at the Learning 2008 conference. 

I also have to admit this unintentional bias comes up often in my daily working experience, mostly because I work in a male-dominated area of education and although I do know that it&#039;s definitely unintentional, it happens, regularly. It&#039;s definitely a reality of the world that I wish did not exist. Thank you for drawing such careful attention to it, and for starting this discussion.

I am so flattered to read your kind words about the work I&#039;ve been doing with amazing colleagues and to be included among people who I consider to be leaders in education (regardless of gender).

Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for your thoughtful, timely and relevant post David. I have been thinking about this quite a bit over the last few years, as I have noticed many of the same things that you point out &#8211; most recently the 7 male (and one virtual female) keynotes at the Learning 2008 conference. </p>
<p>I also have to admit this unintentional bias comes up often in my daily working experience, mostly because I work in a male-dominated area of education and although I do know that it&#8217;s definitely unintentional, it happens, regularly. It&#8217;s definitely a reality of the world that I wish did not exist. Thank you for drawing such careful attention to it, and for starting this discussion.</p>
<p>I am so flattered to read your kind words about the work I&#8217;ve been doing with amazing colleagues and to be included among people who I consider to be leaders in education (regardless of gender).</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Truss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Truss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim,

First I want it to be publicly known that I had no intention of singling out BLC as a target for gender bias. I wanted the &#039;unintentional biases&#039; that I mentioned to be from personal experience and &lt;a title=&quot;Come join us for BLC09&quot; href=&quot;http://novemberlearning.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=18&amp;Itemid=115&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;BLC&lt;/a&gt; is the only big conference that I will be participating in for two straight years.

As for suggestions, I need only look to &lt;a title=&quot;Girl Power&quot; href=&quot;http://pairadimes.davidtruss.com/girl-power/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my last post&lt;/a&gt; to find 5 exceptional educational leaders.

Here they are again with some more information that I personally think would make them worthy of being a keynote. Please note that I can suggest them but do not speak on their behalf and may not be aware of some topics that they may be working on that would fit even better for a keynote topic. All 5 of them can be contacted through their blogs or on Twitter.
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&lt;img src=&quot;http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitter_production/profile_images/68042369/kimcofino_bigger.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;73&quot; height=&quot;73&quot; /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://mscofino.edublogs.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Kim Cofino&lt;/a&gt;: Her blog says ‘always learning’ but she is ‘always teaching’, and she really gets &lt;a href=&quot;http://mscofino.edublogs.org/projects/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;collaboration&lt;/a&gt;!&lt;/strong&gt;

* I suggested Kim last year in an e-mail to Alan, (along with &lt;a title=&quot;Hear him speak for the Connectivism course&quot; href=&quot;http://ltc.umanitoba.ca/connectivism/?p=169&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Alec Couros&lt;/a&gt; who would also be great to get as a speaker). At the time, I also included links to two presentations she had done:

&lt;textarea id=&quot;autosaveContent&quot; style=&quot;display: none;&quot; cols=&quot;1&quot; rows=&quot;1&quot;&gt;&lt;/textarea&gt;&lt;a title=&quot;First presented at: Teach IT! Conference, Singapore in November 2007&quot; href=&quot;http://developingtheglobalstudent.wikispaces.com/Presentation&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Developing the Global Student&lt;/a&gt; : Practical Ways to Infuse 21st Century Literacy Skills in Your Classroom and  &lt;a title=&quot;Presented at the same conference above as well as: # Teach IT! Conference, Singapore in November 2007&quot; href=&quot;http://21stcenturyeducator.wikispaces.com/Presentation&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The 21st Century Educator&lt;/a&gt; : Embracing Web 2.0 in Your Professional Practice.
&lt;p id=&quot;toc0&quot;&gt;* &lt;a title=&quot;Her Bio for the conferences above.&quot; href=&quot;http://developingtheglobalstudent.wikispaces.com/Bio&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;See her bio here&lt;/a&gt;. Kim (and Vicki below) have worked on some amazing collaboration projects with another presenter that would be great for the conference, &lt;a title=&quot;One of her posts about the FLAT CLASSROOM project awards&quot; href=&quot;http://123elearning.blogspot.com/2008/12/flat-classroom-project-2008-awards.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Julie Lindsay&lt;/a&gt;. Kim knew that Alan had asked me to pass along some names last year and she was thrilled with the idea of coming to BLC.&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.edtechpower.blogspot.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://script.retaggr.com/UC/ProfileImage/e5154fb6-b151-40c4-b083-29d2d30b385c.jpg?ver=633637776964400000&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;73&quot; height=&quot;73&quot; /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Liz B. Davis&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong&gt;: From her Two for Tuesdays, to her &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lulu.com/content/2526346&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;book&lt;/a&gt; and presentations, she is always helping others learn.&lt;/strong&gt;

* As mentioned in the first comment on this post, above, Liz is presenting on “Equity Issues in the Edublogosphere” at Educon 2.1 this year... a topic that may be worth expanding on at BLC given this invitation for suggestions.

* Alan (and more than likely you too) knows Liz. She has been instrumental in getting &lt;a title=&quot;I hope that I can make it to this: Monday, July 14, 2008&quot; href=&quot;http://www.edubloggercon.com/BLC2008&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Edubloggercon East&lt;/a&gt; to be a pre-BLC event both last year and this year. This kind of grass-roots pro-d is very empowering and would make a great Keynote topic!&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.cocomment.com/dyn/images/users/coolcatteacher-big.png&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;68&quot; height=&quot;68&quot; /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://coolcatteacher.blogspot.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Vicki Davis&lt;/a&gt;: The Cool Cat Teacher leads the way with world-flattening &lt;a href=&quot;http://flatclassroomproject2008.wikispaces.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;collaborative projects&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/strong&gt;

* I&#039;ve already linked to the Flat Classroom project above, but it should be noted that Thomas Friedman added this project to his updated version of The World is Flat. Be sure to also check out &lt;a title=&quot; This is a collaborative global project between classrooms in diverse geographical locations.&quot; href=&quot;http://horizonproject.wikispaces.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Horizons Project&lt;/a&gt; , and &lt;a title=&quot;Welcome to the Digiteen, digital citizenship global project for 2008-2009.&quot; href=&quot;http://digiteen2008.wikispaces.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Digiteen&lt;/a&gt;.

* I would consider Vicki Davis, Julie Lindsay and Kim Cofino three of the most innovative educators working on Global Collaboration projects that you could possibly find to keynote/present at BLC.&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://learningconversations.ca/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://learningconversations.ca/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/hhgthinking-233x300.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;60&quot; height=&quot;77&quot; /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Heidi Hass Gable&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong&gt;: Parents are educators too, and Heidi is an educational partner, thinker, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://learningconversations.ca/how-do-parents-describe-their-best-interactions-with-teachers/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;leader&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/strong&gt;

* I think parents are often left out of the technology conversation and yet they are often responsible for much of the hardware purchased in schools though fundraising. Heidi&#039;s video, &lt;a title=&quot;My hope is that it will move you, it will motivate you, it will make you think and it will inspire you to get involved in your child’s education, to support your teachers and to be part of creating great schools!&quot; href=&quot;http://learningconversations.ca/videos/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;What I want for my children&lt;/a&gt; , demonstrates that we should all be partners in education.

* Heidi&#039;s metaphorical approach to dealing with a hot topic such as &lt;a title=&quot;Post: Do We Have Diagnosis, But No Treatment?&quot; href=&quot;http://learningconversations.ca/do-we-have-diagnosis-but-no-treatment/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Standardized Testing&lt;/a&gt; also shows that she has a lot to share with educators.&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://aquaculturepda.edublogs.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://aquaculturepda.edublogs.org/files/2008/09/suewaterschoc.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;84&quot; height=&quot;58&quot; /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Sue Waters&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong&gt;: Like Liz, Sue &lt;a href=&quot;http://theedublogger.edublogs.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;shares a wealth of knowledge&lt;/a&gt; and she is extremely supportive to people in her network.&lt;/strong&gt;

* I&#039;ll share two posts with you that demonstrate just how much influence Sue has with educational bloggers: &lt;a title=&quot;Also check out the Class Blogs page she has created&quot; href=&quot;http://theedublogger.edublogs.org/2008/12/18/please-share-your-contact-details-if-youre-interested-in-connecting-with-other-classrooms/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Connecting With Other Classrooms&lt;/a&gt; posted just 4 days ago and already with 53 comments! Also, &lt;a title=&quot;Share your Blogging Experience and Tips For Educators New To Blogging&quot; href=&quot;http://theedublogger.edublogs.org/2008/06/17/share-your-blogging-experience-and-tips-for-educators-new-to-blogging/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Share your Blogging Experience&lt;/a&gt; with 56 comments, and as a commentor that shared links I can tell you that many educators have used this as a resource.&lt;/div&gt;
* Sue is an amazing &lt;a title=&quot;&quot;Skype Other Classrooms!&quot;&quot; href=&quot;http://theedublogger.edublogs.org/want-to-connect-with-other-classrooms/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;connector&lt;/a&gt; and in her own words this is what she stands for - &quot;&lt;em&gt;practical application of technologies in education, and most importantly HELPING OTHERS learn how to use these technologies.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;
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So there you go Jim,

In my last post I said that these were some amazing educators and now it is evident that when I chose them for the list, I had done so thoughtfully and selectively. BLC would be that much better to have any one or all of these educators as either a keynote or a presenter. I&#039;d also like to remind you that it would be advantageous for you to speak to these educators and leaders personally rather than having me speak on their behalf.

Thanks for reading, commenting and for being open to suggestions.

Dave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,</p>
<p>First I want it to be publicly known that I had no intention of singling out BLC as a target for gender bias. I wanted the &#8216;unintentional biases&#8217; that I mentioned to be from personal experience and <a title="Come join us for BLC09" href="http://novemberlearning.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=18&amp;Itemid=115" rel="nofollow">BLC</a> is the only big conference that I will be participating in for two straight years.</p>
<p>As for suggestions, I need only look to <a title="Girl Power" href="http://pairadimes.davidtruss.com/girl-power/" rel="nofollow">my last post</a> to find 5 exceptional educational leaders.</p>
<p>Here they are again with some more information that I personally think would make them worthy of being a keynote. Please note that I can suggest them but do not speak on their behalf and may not be aware of some topics that they may be working on that would fit even better for a keynote topic. All 5 of them can be contacted through their blogs or on Twitter.</p>
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<p><img src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitter_production/profile_images/68042369/kimcofino_bigger.jpg" alt="" width="73" height="73" /> <strong><a href="http://mscofino.edublogs.org/" rel="nofollow">Kim Cofino</a>: Her blog says ‘always learning’ but she is ‘always teaching’, and she really gets <a href="http://mscofino.edublogs.org/projects/" rel="nofollow">collaboration</a>!</strong></p>
<p>* I suggested Kim last year in an e-mail to Alan, (along with <a title="Hear him speak for the Connectivism course" href="http://ltc.umanitoba.ca/connectivism/?p=169" rel="nofollow">Alec Couros</a> who would also be great to get as a speaker). At the time, I also included links to two presentations she had done:</p>
<p><textarea id="autosaveContent" style="display: none;" cols="1" rows="1"></textarea><a title="First presented at: Teach IT! Conference, Singapore in November 2007" href="http://developingtheglobalstudent.wikispaces.com/Presentation" rel="nofollow">Developing the Global Student</a> : Practical Ways to Infuse 21st Century Literacy Skills in Your Classroom and  <a title="Presented at the same conference above as well as: # Teach IT! Conference, Singapore in November 2007" href="http://21stcenturyeducator.wikispaces.com/Presentation" rel="nofollow">The 21st Century Educator</a> : Embracing Web 2.0 in Your Professional Practice.</p>
<p id="toc0">* <a title="Her Bio for the conferences above." href="http://developingtheglobalstudent.wikispaces.com/Bio" rel="nofollow">See her bio here</a>. Kim (and Vicki below) have worked on some amazing collaboration projects with another presenter that would be great for the conference, <a title="One of her posts about the FLAT CLASSROOM project awards" href="http://123elearning.blogspot.com/2008/12/flat-classroom-project-2008-awards.html" rel="nofollow">Julie Lindsay</a>. Kim knew that Alan had asked me to pass along some names last year and she was thrilled with the idea of coming to BLC.</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.edtechpower.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://script.retaggr.com/UC/ProfileImage/e5154fb6-b151-40c4-b083-29d2d30b385c.jpg?ver=633637776964400000" alt="" width="73" height="73" /> <strong>Liz B. Davis</strong></a><strong>: From her Two for Tuesdays, to her <a href="http://www.lulu.com/content/2526346" rel="nofollow">book</a> and presentations, she is always helping others learn.</strong></p>
<p>* As mentioned in the first comment on this post, above, Liz is presenting on “Equity Issues in the Edublogosphere” at Educon 2.1 this year&#8230; a topic that may be worth expanding on at BLC given this invitation for suggestions.</p>
<p>* Alan (and more than likely you too) knows Liz. She has been instrumental in getting <a title="I hope that I can make it to this: Monday, July 14, 2008" href="http://www.edubloggercon.com/BLC2008" rel="nofollow">Edubloggercon East</a> to be a pre-BLC event both last year and this year. This kind of grass-roots pro-d is very empowering and would make a great Keynote topic!</div>
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<p><img src="http://www.cocomment.com/dyn/images/users/coolcatteacher-big.png" alt="" width="68" height="68" /> <strong><a href="http://coolcatteacher.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Vicki Davis</a>: The Cool Cat Teacher leads the way with world-flattening <a href="http://flatclassroomproject2008.wikispaces.com/" rel="nofollow">collaborative projects</a>. </strong></p>
<p>* I&#8217;ve already linked to the Flat Classroom project above, but it should be noted that Thomas Friedman added this project to his updated version of The World is Flat. Be sure to also check out <a title=" This is a collaborative global project between classrooms in diverse geographical locations." href="http://horizonproject.wikispaces.com/" rel="nofollow">The Horizons Project</a> , and <a title="Welcome to the Digiteen, digital citizenship global project for 2008-2009." href="http://digiteen2008.wikispaces.com/" rel="nofollow">Digiteen</a>.</p>
<p>* I would consider Vicki Davis, Julie Lindsay and Kim Cofino three of the most innovative educators working on Global Collaboration projects that you could possibly find to keynote/present at BLC.</p></div>
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<p><a href="http://learningconversations.ca/" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://learningconversations.ca/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/hhgthinking-233x300.jpg" alt="" width="60" height="77" /> <strong>Heidi Hass Gable</strong></a><strong>: Parents are educators too, and Heidi is an educational partner, thinker, and <a href="http://learningconversations.ca/how-do-parents-describe-their-best-interactions-with-teachers/" rel="nofollow">leader</a>.</strong></p>
<p>* I think parents are often left out of the technology conversation and yet they are often responsible for much of the hardware purchased in schools though fundraising. Heidi&#8217;s video, <a title="My hope is that it will move you, it will motivate you, it will make you think and it will inspire you to get involved in your child’s education, to support your teachers and to be part of creating great schools!" href="http://learningconversations.ca/videos/" rel="nofollow">What I want for my children</a> , demonstrates that we should all be partners in education.</p>
<p>* Heidi&#8217;s metaphorical approach to dealing with a hot topic such as <a title="Post: Do We Have Diagnosis, But No Treatment?" href="http://learningconversations.ca/do-we-have-diagnosis-but-no-treatment/" rel="nofollow">Standardized Testing</a> also shows that she has a lot to share with educators.</div>
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<p><a href="http://aquaculturepda.edublogs.org/" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://aquaculturepda.edublogs.org/files/2008/09/suewaterschoc.jpg" alt="" width="84" height="58" /> <strong>Sue Waters</strong></a><strong>: Like Liz, Sue <a href="http://theedublogger.edublogs.org/" rel="nofollow">shares a wealth of knowledge</a> and she is extremely supportive to people in her network.</strong></p>
<p>* I&#8217;ll share two posts with you that demonstrate just how much influence Sue has with educational bloggers: <a title="Also check out the Class Blogs page she has created" href="http://theedublogger.edublogs.org/2008/12/18/please-share-your-contact-details-if-youre-interested-in-connecting-with-other-classrooms/" rel="nofollow">Connecting With Other Classrooms</a> posted just 4 days ago and already with 53 comments! Also, <a title="Share your Blogging Experience and Tips For Educators New To Blogging" href="http://theedublogger.edublogs.org/2008/06/17/share-your-blogging-experience-and-tips-for-educators-new-to-blogging/" rel="nofollow">Share your Blogging Experience</a> with 56 comments, and as a commentor that shared links I can tell you that many educators have used this as a resource.</div>
<p>* Sue is an amazing <a title="&quot;Skype Other Classrooms!&quot;" href="http://theedublogger.edublogs.org/want-to-connect-with-other-classrooms/" rel="nofollow">connector</a> and in her own words this is what she stands for &#8211; &#8220;<em>practical application of technologies in education, and most importantly HELPING OTHERS learn how to use these technologies.&#8221;</em></p>
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<p>So there you go Jim,</p>
<p>In my last post I said that these were some amazing educators and now it is evident that when I chose them for the list, I had done so thoughtfully and selectively. BLC would be that much better to have any one or all of these educators as either a keynote or a presenter. I&#8217;d also like to remind you that it would be advantageous for you to speak to these educators and leaders personally rather than having me speak on their behalf.</p>
<p>Thanks for reading, commenting and for being open to suggestions.</p>
<p>Dave.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Truss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Truss</dc:creator>
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		<description>Thank you all, for your thoughtful comments! Jim, I will comment again to respond to you in a bit.


If I&#039;ve learned two things from this conversation they would be:


1. The biases are real, and present, and not just there for women. Recognizing this and not doing anything about it does not help in any way.


2. Family influence is much greater than societal influence... for my reading audience! In my years as a teacher, I&#039;ve met many students that would not have the same positive home influence that many of your children would be provided with.


A final thought on this is that a better question was asked by Betty who commented above: She wants to know how success is being measured. It would be worthwhile to continue the conversation on her blog: &lt;a href=&quot;http://bgilgoff.edublogs.org/2008/12/21/successin-female-terms/&quot; title=&quot;By Betty Gilgoff&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Success... in female terms?&lt;/a&gt;  Also of worthy note is the &#039;aside&#039; Claire Thompson makes in comment #5 of that post. I think Claire&#039;s &#039;aside&#039; puts the whole conversation on both these posts into perspective! 


Thanks again for your contributions to my learning! 
Dave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you all, for your thoughtful comments! Jim, I will comment again to respond to you in a bit.</p>
<p>If I&#8217;ve learned two things from this conversation they would be:</p>
<p>1. The biases are real, and present, and not just there for women. Recognizing this and not doing anything about it does not help in any way.</p>
<p>2. Family influence is much greater than societal influence&#8230; for my reading audience! In my years as a teacher, I&#8217;ve met many students that would not have the same positive home influence that many of your children would be provided with.</p>
<p>A final thought on this is that a better question was asked by Betty who commented above: She wants to know how success is being measured. It would be worthwhile to continue the conversation on her blog: <a href="http://bgilgoff.edublogs.org/2008/12/21/successin-female-terms/" title="By Betty Gilgoff" rel="nofollow">Success&#8230; in female terms?</a>  Also of worthy note is the &#8216;aside&#8217; Claire Thompson makes in comment #5 of that post. I think Claire&#8217;s &#8216;aside&#8217; puts the whole conversation on both these posts into perspective! </p>
<p>Thanks again for your contributions to my learning!<br />
Dave.</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cindy Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,
I&#039;ve been following this discussion here, in Betty&#039;s blog and on Twitter.  Here is where I&#039;ve gotten:
In raising my own daughters (I have 2 daughters and a son) I never looked for role models.  I raised them with a mantra of &quot;Don&#039;t be one man short of the welfare line&quot; as they watched me go through university to be a teacher. (It means stand on your own two feet and be able to raise your family on your own if needed, not marry for money as one young man thought.) I had them watch an episode of Oprah on women in third world countries so they knew what it was like to be a woman outside of North America and Europe and how lucky they were to live where they did.  I provided an opportunity for them to go to a woman&#039;s day at the college when they were in high school.  I didn&#039;t use role models, I took ACTION to help them discover for themselves what being a woman could be.  I also ensured we respected and honoured the men in our lives as well.  We celebrate and respect our differences. 

Your most significant role models for your daughters are yourself and your wife and the ACTION you take in guiding your girls to be the wonderful woman they will grow up to be.

Cindy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,<br />
I&#8217;ve been following this discussion here, in Betty&#8217;s blog and on Twitter.  Here is where I&#8217;ve gotten:<br />
In raising my own daughters (I have 2 daughters and a son) I never looked for role models.  I raised them with a mantra of &#8220;Don&#8217;t be one man short of the welfare line&#8221; as they watched me go through university to be a teacher. (It means stand on your own two feet and be able to raise your family on your own if needed, not marry for money as one young man thought.) I had them watch an episode of Oprah on women in third world countries so they knew what it was like to be a woman outside of North America and Europe and how lucky they were to live where they did.  I provided an opportunity for them to go to a woman&#8217;s day at the college when they were in high school.  I didn&#8217;t use role models, I took ACTION to help them discover for themselves what being a woman could be.  I also ensured we respected and honoured the men in our lives as well.  We celebrate and respect our differences. </p>
<p>Your most significant role models for your daughters are yourself and your wife and the ACTION you take in guiding your girls to be the wonderful woman they will grow up to be.</p>
<p>Cindy</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Wenzloff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Wenzloff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 02:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,

I was very interested in your post and the comments that followed. I wanted to react to one comment you made.

&quot;* Last year I went to BLC08 with three male keynote speakers. This year I’m going back for BLC09, and what do I see? Three male keynotes.&quot;

We just had a meeting in Boston about the conference and discussed the fact that we haven&#039;t had a female keynote speaker for the last two years. We haven&#039;t had a female keynote BLC since BLC06. We are open to suggestions.


Jim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>I was very interested in your post and the comments that followed. I wanted to react to one comment you made.</p>
<p>&#8220;* Last year I went to BLC08 with three male keynote speakers. This year I’m going back for BLC09, and what do I see? Three male keynotes.&#8221;</p>
<p>We just had a meeting in Boston about the conference and discussed the fact that we haven&#8217;t had a female keynote speaker for the last two years. We haven&#8217;t had a female keynote BLC since BLC06. We are open to suggestions.</p>
<p>Jim</p>
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		<title>By: Frank in Mexico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank in Mexico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always think that it is healthy to focus on both differences and similarities, too. I used to travel around the USA facilitating diversity awareness workshops for the US feds back when diversity was a hot HR issue for employee training programs in corporations and other workplaces.

What I have found interesting is that most people want to explore gender and race discrimination, but not really go any deeper. And even on the gender side, only women are discussed, never men. Isn&#039;t that odd? Not really, because our culture punishes us when we dare to speak of discrimination against men. But yet the truth is that we must tackle ALL the &quot;isms&quot; because they are a vicious chain that support each other ... and allowing discrimination in one area give unspoken tacit approval to discriminate in others. We just keep pushing it around from one place to another ... and most of us discriminate via INACTION not ACTION. We sit in the comfort of our armchairs and turn a blind eye ... saying &quot;I don&#039;t discriminate against THOSE people.&quot; But in fact they do, it takes more that passive words to end discrimination against ourselves and others. 

Remember the definition of a pedagogical task? One has to DO something and there has to be an OUTCOME. You can&#039;t just sit and ponder.

What about those discriminated for age (including children), sexual orientation, abled-bodiness, ethnicity, physical attributes, etc.

My point is that we will continue to talk overtly about women until we begin to address all &quot;isms&quot; .. because ignoring them actually keeps sexism alive in the end. Remember the Martin Niemöller poem. Well it says it all:

When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I was not a Jew.
When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.

So wanna stop highlighting women? End all discrimination as best as we can, each and every day, and not just from your armchairs or blogs.

P.S. Just a closing note. Many think that men and in particular white men are free of discrimination. And many women refuse to address men&#039;s issues until their issues are discussed and explored and addressed, etc. Let me give you all an idea of the great discrimination that men face, professional economic positions are not everything. Do men kiss each other in public or hold hands or dance together like women do? Why not? Because homophobia is a discrimination that keeps men from sharing intimacy and closeness as women enjoy between themselves. And of course we must isolate men from one another .. because they must be conditioned to kill each other for national and international defense. Men&#039;s lives hold less value in this respect than women&#039;s do. Even during the Titanic days of men going down with the ship and only women and children in the lifeboats. Men are more unsuccessful when it comes to parental custody issue. Men are jailed more often than women for similar offenses. Men are label low-lifes, bums, jerks, no-goods if they can&#039;t work (for women it is still ok not to, they are called loafers for not working). Men are tossed a lot of stress to be quick on their feet, providers, on top of things, and on and on. We really need to do a lot to remove these discriminating expectation from men, too. Many of these &quot;traditional&quot; views are kept in place by families, churches, and education. Men (internalized) and women both participate in the discrimination against men.

When we address it all, we won&#039;t have to say &quot;female&quot; educational technology leaders any more. It isn&#039;t unintentional at all. Isms are very intentional and we all have a duty to minimize them and check our own blindspots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always think that it is healthy to focus on both differences and similarities, too. I used to travel around the USA facilitating diversity awareness workshops for the US feds back when diversity was a hot HR issue for employee training programs in corporations and other workplaces.</p>
<p>What I have found interesting is that most people want to explore gender and race discrimination, but not really go any deeper. And even on the gender side, only women are discussed, never men. Isn&#8217;t that odd? Not really, because our culture punishes us when we dare to speak of discrimination against men. But yet the truth is that we must tackle ALL the &#8220;isms&#8221; because they are a vicious chain that support each other &#8230; and allowing discrimination in one area give unspoken tacit approval to discriminate in others. We just keep pushing it around from one place to another &#8230; and most of us discriminate via INACTION not ACTION. We sit in the comfort of our armchairs and turn a blind eye &#8230; saying &#8220;I don&#8217;t discriminate against THOSE people.&#8221; But in fact they do, it takes more that passive words to end discrimination against ourselves and others. </p>
<p>Remember the definition of a pedagogical task? One has to DO something and there has to be an OUTCOME. You can&#8217;t just sit and ponder.</p>
<p>What about those discriminated for age (including children), sexual orientation, abled-bodiness, ethnicity, physical attributes, etc.</p>
<p>My point is that we will continue to talk overtly about women until we begin to address all &#8220;isms&#8221; .. because ignoring them actually keeps sexism alive in the end. Remember the Martin Niemöller poem. Well it says it all:</p>
<p>When the Nazis came for the communists,<br />
I remained silent;<br />
I was not a communist.<br />
When they locked up the social democrats,<br />
I remained silent;<br />
I was not a social democrat.<br />
When they came for the trade unionists,<br />
I did not speak out;<br />
I was not a trade unionist.<br />
When they came for the Jews,<br />
I remained silent;<br />
I was not a Jew.<br />
When they came for me,<br />
there was no one left to speak out.</p>
<p>So wanna stop highlighting women? End all discrimination as best as we can, each and every day, and not just from your armchairs or blogs.</p>
<p>P.S. Just a closing note. Many think that men and in particular white men are free of discrimination. And many women refuse to address men&#8217;s issues until their issues are discussed and explored and addressed, etc. Let me give you all an idea of the great discrimination that men face, professional economic positions are not everything. Do men kiss each other in public or hold hands or dance together like women do? Why not? Because homophobia is a discrimination that keeps men from sharing intimacy and closeness as women enjoy between themselves. And of course we must isolate men from one another .. because they must be conditioned to kill each other for national and international defense. Men&#8217;s lives hold less value in this respect than women&#8217;s do. Even during the Titanic days of men going down with the ship and only women and children in the lifeboats. Men are more unsuccessful when it comes to parental custody issue. Men are jailed more often than women for similar offenses. Men are label low-lifes, bums, jerks, no-goods if they can&#8217;t work (for women it is still ok not to, they are called loafers for not working). Men are tossed a lot of stress to be quick on their feet, providers, on top of things, and on and on. We really need to do a lot to remove these discriminating expectation from men, too. Many of these &#8220;traditional&#8221; views are kept in place by families, churches, and education. Men (internalized) and women both participate in the discrimination against men.</p>
<p>When we address it all, we won&#8217;t have to say &#8220;female&#8221; educational technology leaders any more. It isn&#8217;t unintentional at all. Isms are very intentional and we all have a duty to minimize them and check our own blindspots.</p>
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		<title>By: Betty Gilgoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Betty Gilgoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great discussion. I’ve almost joined in a couple of times here and to the previous post but needed time to think this through as it isn&#039;t an easy issues.  As I started to respond I realized I would probably fill your comment quota so I’ve decided to post on the issue in my own blog at http://bgilgoff.edublogs.org/2008/12/21/successin-female-terms/.  Here’s a start:
I believe this kind of public acknowledgment of the accomplishments of women in any field is beneficial although I also understand where it may be taken as condescending. However, there is definitely a bias in the world I inhabit, which I don’t believe is all that unintentional as a general rule. Sure, I know many men and women who never intend it, but it is everywhere as you point out Dave.   We don’t think critically enough about it often enough. Blog posts like this with the accompanying comments therefore are useful in the much needed raising of awareness. Though honestly, it is only a crack. 

As to your girls Dave, I believe they will be more affected by both you and their mother, than just their mother. They are lucky to have a dad that cares enough about all this to even venture into such “loaded” territory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great discussion. I’ve almost joined in a couple of times here and to the previous post but needed time to think this through as it isn&#8217;t an easy issues.  As I started to respond I realized I would probably fill your comment quota so I’ve decided to post on the issue in my own blog at <a href="http://bgilgoff.edublogs.org/2008/12/21/successin-female-terms/" rel="nofollow">http://bgilgoff.edublogs.org/2008/12/21/successin-female-terms/</a>.  Here’s a start:<br />
I believe this kind of public acknowledgment of the accomplishments of women in any field is beneficial although I also understand where it may be taken as condescending. However, there is definitely a bias in the world I inhabit, which I don’t believe is all that unintentional as a general rule. Sure, I know many men and women who never intend it, but it is everywhere as you point out Dave.   We don’t think critically enough about it often enough. Blog posts like this with the accompanying comments therefore are useful in the much needed raising of awareness. Though honestly, it is only a crack. </p>
<p>As to your girls Dave, I believe they will be more affected by both you and their mother, than just their mother. They are lucky to have a dad that cares enough about all this to even venture into such “loaded” territory.</p>
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		<title>By: Success&#8230;.In female terms? &#124; Betty Online</title>
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		<dc:creator>Success&#8230;.In female terms? &#124; Betty Online</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dave Truss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Truss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 15:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;
I wasn&#039;t planning on commenting again here, but I have very few things that I am an expert in and one of those things happens to be the things that I myself &lt;em&gt;&#039;fundamentally claim&#039;&lt;/em&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Heidi, you get what I am saying! Thanks for clarifying for me. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The fact that Lisa Thumann and Liz Davis are leading a session on “&lt;strong&gt;Equity Issues in the Edublogosphere&lt;/strong&gt;” at Educon 2.1 this year, tells me that my concerns are legitimate. Liz and Lisa, I wish that this didn&#039;t have to be a topic we even discussed, but if we are going to have to have the discussion then I&#039;m glad that it is you two leading it... and yes Liz, I wish that I could be there too. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Vicki&#039;s comment speaks glaringly from the trenches that &lt;strong&gt;bias&lt;/strong&gt;, (the actual point made in my title, in my introduction, and in the last half of my post), is both present and problematic:  &lt;em&gt;&quot;The bottom line is that we’re here for the students and diversity just
means we can reach a wider audience — more people will find SOMEONE to relate to. It is a real turnoff to learning for many of us to see a lack of diversity.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
And to compliment the point Louise Maine makes about the challenge of being a female science teacher... here is a bit of the reality she is facing: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/12/AR2006071201883.html&quot; title=&quot;Article in the Washington Post&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Male Scientist Writes of Life as Female Scientist&lt;/a&gt;  and &lt;a href=&quot;http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B0DE3DE153BF931A15756C0A961958260&amp;sec=&amp;spon=&amp;pagewanted=1&quot; title=&quot;Article in the New York Times&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Swedish Study Finds Sex Bias in Getting Science Jobs&lt;/a&gt;. You can find more of these kinds of articles in &lt;a href=&quot;http://wanderingink.net/&quot; title=&quot;Wandering Ink blog&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Kris&lt;/a&gt; &#039; bookmarks on &lt;a href=&quot;http://delicious.com/gypsyblue/gender&quot; title=&quot;Kris Bradburn&#039;s del.icio.us bookmarks on gender&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;gender&lt;/a&gt;. Also, I agree with Louise, &lt;em&gt;&quot;Silvana makes a great point that we don’t acknowledge the role models already here and what they provide.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;
We don&#039;t acknowledge them enough... and that recognition will not come by sitting idly by and letting &lt;strong&gt;unintentional bias &lt;/strong&gt;(again the actual point of this post) be something that we allow to happen without discussing it.  
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
 
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I wasn&#8217;t planning on commenting again here, but I have very few things that I am an expert in and one of those things happens to be the things that I myself <em>&#8216;fundamentally claim&#8217;</em>.
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Heidi, you get what I am saying! Thanks for clarifying for me.
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The fact that Lisa Thumann and Liz Davis are leading a session on “<strong>Equity Issues in the Edublogosphere</strong>” at Educon 2.1 this year, tells me that my concerns are legitimate. Liz and Lisa, I wish that this didn&#8217;t have to be a topic we even discussed, but if we are going to have to have the discussion then I&#8217;m glad that it is you two leading it&#8230; and yes Liz, I wish that I could be there too.
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Vicki&#8217;s comment speaks glaringly from the trenches that <strong>bias</strong>, (the actual point made in my title, in my introduction, and in the last half of my post), is both present and problematic:  <em>&#8220;The bottom line is that we’re here for the students and diversity just<br />
means we can reach a wider audience — more people will find SOMEONE to relate to. It is a real turnoff to learning for many of us to see a lack of diversity.&#8221;</em>
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<p>
And to compliment the point Louise Maine makes about the challenge of being a female science teacher&#8230; here is a bit of the reality she is facing: <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/12/AR2006071201883.html" title="Article in the Washington Post" rel="nofollow">Male Scientist Writes of Life as Female Scientist</a>  and <a href="http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B0DE3DE153BF931A15756C0A961958260&#038;sec=&#038;spon=&#038;pagewanted=1" title="Article in the New York Times" rel="nofollow">Swedish Study Finds Sex Bias in Getting Science Jobs</a>. You can find more of these kinds of articles in <a href="http://wanderingink.net/" title="Wandering Ink blog" rel="nofollow">Kris</a> &#8216; bookmarks on <a href="http://delicious.com/gypsyblue/gender" title="Kris Bradburn's del.icio.us bookmarks on gender" rel="nofollow">gender</a>. Also, I agree with Louise, <em>&#8220;Silvana makes a great point that we don’t acknowledge the role models already here and what they provide.&#8221;</em>
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We don&#8217;t acknowledge them enough&#8230; and that recognition will not come by sitting idly by and letting <strong>unintentional bias </strong>(again the actual point of this post) be something that we allow to happen without discussing it.
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